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By Laitainion on 4/26/2010 3:59:41 AM , Rating: 2
What point exactly are you trying to argue? That the US health-care is rediculously expensive by any objective standard? Or that the you think a free market is the best way to run a health service?

Either way you're wrong, the US health care system costs twice as much (per head) as most developed counrties and for that you get to be ranked as possibly the least healthy developed country too (WHO ranks the US as 72nd on overall health out of 191).

So yeah, I'll stick with my NHS thank you very much.

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By heffeque on 4/26/2010 7:34:39 AM , Rating: 2
Actually the US health care system is 5 times more expensive (per head) than the one in Spain, yet has a lower health outcome.

Here's a video that explains the differences between them and why paying more isn't always receiving a better service:

Jeff Goldsmith - Healthcare Comparison US vs Spain:

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By Steve1981 on 4/26/2010 10:48:41 AM , Rating: 2
Can't watch the video at the moment to comment (at work), but something else worth noting within the US: arguably some of the very best care you can receive here (and in the world) is at the Mayo Clinic, notably a private not-for-profit organization. It also happens to treat patients at half the cost of comparable facilities near to its locations. Just goes to show simply throwing money at problems isn't always the best option.

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Wow, I just got this off NHS's website:





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That's until they go to the US.




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By weskurtz0081 on 4/26/2010 8:59:49 AM , Rating: 2
Actually, the quality of health care received in the U.S. is quite good, among the best. The problem is that often times people opt to not receive the health care because it is too damned expensive.

If you keep everything equal but remove the costs, the U.S. health care system would all of the sudden be one of the best.

So, just using overall health of the population to evaluate how GOOD the health care is simply doesn't take enough into account, like people not seeking out health care due to the associated cost.

The system is very good, the costs are the problem. Fix those.

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Depends on what your goals and ideals are I suppose.


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By Kurz on 4/26/2010 10:15:44 AM , Rating: 2
Its rediculously expensive because of special interest groups lobbying for bill and policies that make it more profitable for them to do business in our country.

Free market was never the issue, it has always been the driver of innovation, reducing costs, and overall brings more prosperity to more people.

The WHO statistics are flawed. For one instance in America we trail a bit behind in birth rates. Thats mainly because we count every live birth regardless weither they die a minute later from complications, In the UK they don't attempt to treat newborns born eariler than 22 weeks (If I have my facts straight) even though its quite possible for them to pull through they wont treat the child. They count it differently in other countries. Its a political thing to make it look like the American system is deeply flawed.

The laws of Prices and supply and scaristy effect all of us. There is a cost associated and in one shape or another it is traded off with each other.

I am for more free market reform of the health care system.
Except its not popular since most people don't understand the basics of economics.

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By gamerk2 on 4/26/2010 10:43:39 AM , Rating: 2
Funny; Could have sworn the last time we tried a "Free Market" system, we ended up with nothing but monopolies paying around $0.10 an hour [if you were lucky]...

We haven't been a "Free Market" economy since the T. Roosevelt administartion.

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>.> inflation is a major cause.

You have to look at the difference between the costs.

In New York many people makes 6 figures.

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