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Dorothy Ridings | Moderator | Good evening from the Civic Center in Philadelphia, Pennsylvania. Im Dorothy Ridings, president of the League of Women Voters, the sponsor of tonights vice- presidential debate between Republican George Bush and Democrat Geraldine Ferraro. Our panelists for tonights debate are John Mashek, correspondent for U. S. News ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Thank you, Dorothy. A few words about the order of our format tonight. The order of questioning was determined by a toss of the coin. Congresswoman Ferraro won the toss. She elected to speak last. Therefore Vice President Bush will get the first question. The debate will be built upon a series of questions from the fou... |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Thank you, Dorothy. A few words about the order of our format tonight. The order of questioning was determined by a toss of the coin. Congresswoman Ferraro won the toss. She elected to speak last. Therefore Vice President Bush will get the first question. The debate will be built upon a series of questions from the fou... | John Mashek | Moderator | John Adams, our nations first vice- president, once said; “Today I am nothing. Tomorrow I may be everything. ” With that in mind, Id like to ask the following question; Vice President Bush, four years ago, you ran against Mr. Reagan for the Republican nomination. You disagreed with him on such issues as the Equal Right... |
John Mashek | Moderator | John Adams, our nations first vice- president, once said; “Today I am nothing. Tomorrow I may be everything. ” With that in mind, Id like to ask the following question; Vice President Bush, four years ago, you ran against Mr. Reagan for the Republican nomination. You disagreed with him on such issues as the Equal Right... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I dont think theres a great difference, Mr. Mashek, between my views and President Reagans. One of the reasons I think were an effective team is that I believe firmly in his leadership. Hes really turned this country around. We agree on the economic program. When we came into office, why, inflation was 21, 12 1/2... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I dont think theres a great difference, Mr. Mashek, between my views and President Reagans. One of the reasons I think were an effective team is that I believe firmly in his leadership. Hes really turned this country around. We agree on the economic program. When we came into office, why, inflation was 21, 12 1/2... | John Mashek | Moderator | Well some Republicans have criticized Mr. Mondale for now claiming he disagreed privately with Jimmy Carters decision to impose the grain embargo. Have you ever disagreed with any decision of the Reagan Administration and its inner circles? And in following that up, where in your judgment does loyalty end and principle... |
John Mashek | Moderator | Well some Republicans have criticized Mr. Mondale for now claiming he disagreed privately with Jimmy Carters decision to impose the grain embargo. Have you ever disagreed with any decision of the Reagan Administration and its inner circles? And in following that up, where in your judgment does loyalty end and principle... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I owe my president my judgment and then I owe him loyalty. You cant have the president of the United States out there looking over his shoulder wondering whether his vice president is going to be supporting him. Mrs. Ferraro has quite a few differences with Vice- President Mondale and I understood it when she changed h... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I owe my president my judgment and then I owe him loyalty. You cant have the president of the United States out there looking over his shoulder wondering whether his vice president is going to be supporting him. Mrs. Ferraro has quite a few differences with Vice- President Mondale and I understood it when she changed h... | John Mashek | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your opponent has served in the House Of Representatives, hes been ambassador to the United Nations, ambassador to China, director of the Central Intelligence Agency and now hes been vice president for four years. How does your three terms in the House of Representatives stack up against experien... |
John Mashek | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your opponent has served in the House Of Representatives, hes been ambassador to the United Nations, ambassador to China, director of the Central Intelligence Agency and now hes been vice president for four years. How does your three terms in the House of Representatives stack up against experien... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Well, let me first say that I wasnt born at the age of forty- three when I entered Congress. I did have a life before that as well. I was a prosecutor for almost five years in the district attorneys office in Queens County and I was a teacher. Theres not only what is on your paper resume that makes you qualified to run... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Well, let me first say that I wasnt born at the age of forty- three when I entered Congress. I did have a life before that as well. I was a prosecutor for almost five years in the district attorneys office in Queens County and I was a teacher. Theres not only what is on your paper resume that makes you qualified to run... | John Mashek | Moderator | Despite the historic aspects of your candidacy, how do you account for the fact that a majority of women – at least according to the polls – favor the Reagan- Bush ticket over the Mondale- Ferraro ticket? |
John Mashek | Moderator | Despite the historic aspects of your candidacy, how do you account for the fact that a majority of women – at least according to the polls – favor the Reagan- Bush ticket over the Mondale- Ferraro ticket? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I dont. Let me say that Im not a believer in polls and let me say further that what we are talking about are problems that are facing the entire nation. Theyre not just problems facing women. The issues in this campaign are the war- peace issues; the problems of deficits; the problems of trade deficits. We are now faci... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I dont. Let me say that Im not a believer in polls and let me say further that what we are talking about are problems that are facing the entire nation. Theyre not just problems facing women. The issues in this campaign are the war- peace issues; the problems of deficits; the problems of trade deficits. We are now faci... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice President Bush, you have one minute to rebuttal. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice President Bush, you have one minute to rebuttal. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I was glad to get that vote of confidence from Mrs. Ferraro in my economic judgment. So let me make a statement on the economy. The other clay she was in a plant and she said to the workers, Why are you all voting for, why are so many of you voting for the Reagan- Bush ticket. And there was a long, deathly silenc... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I was glad to get that vote of confidence from Mrs. Ferraro in my economic judgment. So let me make a statement on the economy. The other clay she was in a plant and she said to the workers, Why are you all voting for, why are so many of you voting for the Reagan- Bush ticket. And there was a long, deathly silenc... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, one- minute rebuttal. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, one- minute rebuttal. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I, I think what Im going to have to do is Im going to start correcting the vice- presidents statistics. There are 6 million more people who have jobs and thats supposed to happen in a growing economy. In fact in the prior administration, with all their problems, they created 10 million jobs. The housing interest rates ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I, I think what Im going to have to do is Im going to start correcting the vice- presidents statistics. There are 6 million more people who have jobs and thats supposed to happen in a growing economy. In fact in the prior administration, with all their problems, they created 10 million jobs. The housing interest rates ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. White. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. White. | Jack White | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, I would like to ask you about civil rights. You have in the past been a supporter of tuition tax credits for private parochial schools. And also of a constitutional amendment to ban busing. Both these measures are opposed not only by your running mate but by about every educational and civil righ... |
Jack White | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, I would like to ask you about civil rights. You have in the past been a supporter of tuition tax credits for private parochial schools. And also of a constitutional amendment to ban busing. Both these measures are opposed not only by your running mate but by about every educational and civil righ... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | With reference to the busing vote that I cast in 1979, both Fritz Mondale and I agree on the same goal and that is nondiscrimination. I just dont agree on the same direction he does on how to achieve it. But I dont find any problem with that. I think thats been something thats been handled by the courts, and not being ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | With reference to the busing vote that I cast in 1979, both Fritz Mondale and I agree on the same goal and that is nondiscrimination. I just dont agree on the same direction he does on how to achieve it. But I dont find any problem with that. I think thats been something thats been handled by the courts, and not being ... | Jack White | Moderator | In the area of affirmative action, what steps do you think government can take to increase the representation of minorities and women in the work force, and in colleges and universities, and specifically, would you support the use of quotas to achieve those goals? |
Jack White | Moderator | In the area of affirmative action, what steps do you think government can take to increase the representation of minorities and women in the work force, and in colleges and universities, and specifically, would you support the use of quotas to achieve those goals? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I do not support the use of quotas. Both Mr. Mondale and I feel very strongly about affirmative action to correct inequities, and we believe that steps should be taken both through government – for instance, the Small Business Administration. We have supported set- asides for minority and womens businesses. Thats a pos... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I do not support the use of quotas. Both Mr. Mondale and I feel very strongly about affirmative action to correct inequities, and we believe that steps should be taken both through government – for instance, the Small Business Administration. We have supported set- asides for minority and womens businesses. Thats a pos... | Jack White | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, many critics of your administration say that it is the most hostile to minorities in recent memory. Have you inadvertently perhaps encouraged that view by supporting tuition tax credits, the antibusing amendment, and siding with Bob Jones University in a case before the Supreme Court, your origina... |
Jack White | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, many critics of your administration say that it is the most hostile to minorities in recent memory. Have you inadvertently perhaps encouraged that view by supporting tuition tax credits, the antibusing amendment, and siding with Bob Jones University in a case before the Supreme Court, your origina... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, Mr. White, I think our record on civil rights is a good record. You mentioned the Voting Rights extension; it was extended for the longest period of time by President Reagan. But we have some problems in attracting the black vote, and I think our record deserves better. We have done more for black colleges than any... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, Mr. White, I think our record on civil rights is a good record. You mentioned the Voting Rights extension; it was extended for the longest period of time by President Reagan. But we have some problems in attracting the black vote, and I think our record deserves better. We have done more for black colleges than any... | Jack White | Moderator | Along those lines, sir, many recent studies have indicated that the poor and minorities have not really shared in the new prosperity generated by the current economic recovery. Was it right for your administration to pursue policies, economic policies, that required those at the bottom of the economic ladder to wait fo... |
Jack White | Moderator | Along those lines, sir, many recent studies have indicated that the poor and minorities have not really shared in the new prosperity generated by the current economic recovery. Was it right for your administration to pursue policies, economic policies, that required those at the bottom of the economic ladder to wait fo... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Mr. White, its not trickling down. And Im not suggesting theres no poverty, but I am suggesting the way to work out of poverty is through real opportunity. And in the meantime, the needy are getting more help. Human resource spending is way, way up. Aid for Dependent Children spending is up. Immunization programs are u... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Mr. White, its not trickling down. And Im not suggesting theres no poverty, but I am suggesting the way to work out of poverty is through real opportunity. And in the meantime, the needy are getting more help. Human resource spending is way, way up. Aid for Dependent Children spending is up. Immunization programs are u... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | The vice- president indicates that the President signed the Voting Rights Act. That was after he was – he did not support it while it was in the Congress, in the Senate, it was passed despite his opposition, and he did sign it because he was required to do so. In the civil rights cases that he mentioned, the great numb... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | The vice- president indicates that the President signed the Voting Rights Act. That was after he was – he did not support it while it was in the Congress, in the Senate, it was passed despite his opposition, and he did sign it because he was required to do so. In the civil rights cases that he mentioned, the great numb... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Excuse me – this will be out of my time, not yours – knowing and cherishing the people of this city and knowing their restraint and diffidence about emotion especially of athletic contexts of which this is not one, I beseech you, try to hold your applause please. Im sorry. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Excuse me – this will be out of my time, not yours – knowing and cherishing the people of this city and knowing their restraint and diffidence about emotion especially of athletic contexts of which this is not one, I beseech you, try to hold your applause please. Im sorry. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I just have to correct in my thirty seconds that are left the comment that the vice- president made with reference specifically to a program like AFDC. If you take AFDC, if you take food stamps, if you take – oh, go down the line on poor peoples programs, those are the programs that suffered considerably under this adm... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I just have to correct in my thirty seconds that are left the comment that the vice- president made with reference specifically to a program like AFDC. If you take AFDC, if you take food stamps, if you take – oh, go down the line on poor peoples programs, those are the programs that suffered considerably under this adm... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, maybe we have a factual – maybe we can ask the experts to go to the books. Theyll do it anyway. Spending for food stamps is way, way up under the Reagan administration, AFDC is up under the Reagan administration, and Im not going to be found wrong on that. I am sure of my facts, and we are trying to help and I th... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, maybe we have a factual – maybe we can ask the experts to go to the books. Theyll do it anyway. Spending for food stamps is way, way up under the Reagan administration, AFDC is up under the Reagan administration, and Im not going to be found wrong on that. I am sure of my facts, and we are trying to help and I th... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Miss Quarles. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Miss Quarles. | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, one of the most emotional issues in this campaign has been the separation of church and state. What are your views on the separation of church and state specifically with regard to abortion, and do you believe it was right for the archbishop of Philadelphia to have a letter read in 305 churches ur... |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, one of the most emotional issues in this campaign has been the separation of church and state. What are your views on the separation of church and state specifically with regard to abortion, and do you believe it was right for the archbishop of Philadelphia to have a letter read in 305 churches ur... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I do believe in pluralism. I do believe in separation of church and state. I dont consider abortion a religious issue. I consider it a moral issue. I believe the archbishop has every right to do everything he wants in that direction, just as I never faulted Jesse Jackson from taking his message to the black pulpits all... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I do believe in pluralism. I do believe in separation of church and state. I dont consider abortion a religious issue. I consider it a moral issue. I believe the archbishop has every right to do everything he wants in that direction, just as I never faulted Jesse Jackson from taking his message to the black pulpits all... | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, four years ago you would have allowed federal financing of abortions in cases of rape and incest ass well as when the mothers life was threatened. Does your position now agree with Reagan who in Sundays debate came very close to saying abortion is murder? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, four years ago you would have allowed federal financing of abortions in cases of rape and incest ass well as when the mothers life was threatened. Does your position now agree with Reagan who in Sundays debate came very close to saying abortion is murder? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | You know, there has been – I have to make a confession – an evolution in my position. Theres been 15 million abortions since 1973, and I dont take that lightly. Theres been a million and a half this year. The president and I do favor a human rights amendment. I favor one that would have an exception for incest and rape... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | You know, there has been – I have to make a confession – an evolution in my position. Theres been 15 million abortions since 1973, and I dont take that lightly. Theres been a million and a half this year. The president and I do favor a human rights amendment. I favor one that would have an exception for incest and rape... | Norma Quarles | Moderator | So you believe its akin to murder? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | So you believe its akin to murder? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I support the presidents position. |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I support the presidents position. | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Fine. Congresswoman Ferraro, what are your views on the separation of church and state with regard to abortions, and do you believe it was right for the archbishop of Philadelphia to have those letters read in the pulpits and urged the voters to fight abortion with their vote? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Fine. Congresswoman Ferraro, what are your views on the separation of church and state with regard to abortions, and do you believe it was right for the archbishop of Philadelphia to have those letters read in the pulpits and urged the voters to fight abortion with their vote? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say first of all I believe very, very sincerely in the separation of church and state. Im taking it from the historical viewpoint, if you go back to the 1600s when people came here, the reason they came to this country was to escape religious persecution, and thats the same reason why people are coming here toda... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say first of all I believe very, very sincerely in the separation of church and state. Im taking it from the historical viewpoint, if you go back to the 1600s when people came here, the reason they came to this country was to escape religious persecution, and thats the same reason why people are coming here toda... | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, as a devout Catholic, does it trouble you that so many of the leaders of your church disagree with you, and do you think that youre being treated unfairly in any way by the Catholic church? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, as a devout Catholic, does it trouble you that so many of the leaders of your church disagree with you, and do you think that youre being treated unfairly in any way by the Catholic church? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me tell you that I did not come to my position on abortion very lightly. I am a devout Catholic. When I was running for Congress 1978 I sat and met with a person I felt very close to, a monsignor currently a bishop. I spoke to him about my personal feelings that I would never have an abortion, but I was not quite s... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me tell you that I did not come to my position on abortion very lightly. I am a devout Catholic. When I was running for Congress 1978 I sat and met with a person I felt very close to, a monsignor currently a bishop. I spoke to him about my personal feelings that I would never have an abortion, but I was not quite s... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, your rebuttal. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, your rebuttal. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well I respect that statement, I really and truly do. We have difference on a moral question here on abortion. I notice that Mr. Mondale keeps talking in the debate and now its come here about Mr. Falwell. And I dont know where this canard could have come from about Mr. Falwell picking the Supreme Court justices. Ronal... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well I respect that statement, I really and truly do. We have difference on a moral question here on abortion. I notice that Mr. Mondale keeps talking in the debate and now its come here about Mr. Falwell. And I dont know where this canard could have come from about Mr. Falwell picking the Supreme Court justices. Ronal... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal? |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Yes, I still find it very difficult to believe because in the platform, which this Republican party passed in Dallas – one of the things they was they said that this position on abortion would be a litmus test, not only for Supreme Court justices but for other federal justices. That, again, seems to me a blurring of th... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Yes, I still find it very difficult to believe because in the platform, which this Republican party passed in Dallas – one of the things they was they said that this position on abortion would be a litmus test, not only for Supreme Court justices but for other federal justices. That, again, seems to me a blurring of th... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | The next questioning from Mr. Boyd. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | The next questioning from Mr. Boyd. | Robert Boyd | Moderator | Like many Americans, each of you has recently had an unhappy experience with the Internal Revenue Service. Im going to prolong your ordeal. Congresswoman Ferraro, you disagree with the rule that says that a candidate must report the income or assets of his or her spouse if you get any benefit from them. Your husbands t... |
Robert Boyd | Moderator | Like many Americans, each of you has recently had an unhappy experience with the Internal Revenue Service. Im going to prolong your ordeal. Congresswoman Ferraro, you disagree with the rule that says that a candidate must report the income or assets of his or her spouse if you get any benefit from them. Your husbands t... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say to you that I already did that. I wanted them to move ahead. If you recall, I spent about an hour and 45 minutes speaking to 200 reporters on August 21, which is the day after I was required to file my financial statement, and I sat for as long as they had questions on the issue, and I believe that they were... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say to you that I already did that. I wanted them to move ahead. If you recall, I spent about an hour and 45 minutes speaking to 200 reporters on August 21, which is the day after I was required to file my financial statement, and I sat for as long as they had questions on the issue, and I believe that they were... | Robert Boyd | Moderator | Since that famous August 21 press conference on your family finances, you filed a new report with the ethics committee, and this showed that your previous reports were full of mistakes and omissions. For example, you failed to report about twelve trips that were paid for by special interest groups. In at least eighteen... |
Robert Boyd | Moderator | Since that famous August 21 press conference on your family finances, you filed a new report with the ethics committee, and this showed that your previous reports were full of mistakes and omissions. For example, you failed to report about twelve trips that were paid for by special interest groups. In at least eighteen... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Well, what it showed was that – and it was truly that I hired an accountant who had been with our family for well over forty years. He was filling our those ethics forms. I did not spend the time with him – I just gave him my tax information and he did it. I have to tell you what we have done since I have hired a marve... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Well, what it showed was that – and it was truly that I hired an accountant who had been with our family for well over forty years. He was filling our those ethics forms. I did not spend the time with him – I just gave him my tax information and he did it. I have to tell you what we have done since I have hired a marve... | Robert Boyd | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, last year you paid less than 13 percent of your income in federal taxes. According to the IRS, someone in your bracket normally pays about 28 percent of his income. Now what you did was perfectly legal, but do you think it was fair, and is there something wrong with our tax laws that allows such l... |
Robert Boyd | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, last year you paid less than 13 percent of your income in federal taxes. According to the IRS, someone in your bracket normally pays about 28 percent of his income. Now what you did was perfectly legal, but do you think it was fair, and is there something wrong with our tax laws that allows such l... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | What that figure – and I kind of like the way Mrs. Ferraro and Mr. Zaccaro reported – because they reported federal taxes, state and local taxes – gives people a clearer picture. That year I happened to pay a lot of state and local taxes, which as you know are deducted from the other, and so I looked it up the other da... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | What that figure – and I kind of like the way Mrs. Ferraro and Mr. Zaccaro reported – because they reported federal taxes, state and local taxes – gives people a clearer picture. That year I happened to pay a lot of state and local taxes, which as you know are deducted from the other, and so I looked it up the other da... | Robert Boyd | Moderator | Mr. Vice- President, how can you claim that your home is in Maine for tax purposes and at the same time claim that your home is in Texas for voting purposes? Are you really a Texan or a New Englander. |
Robert Boyd | Moderator | Mr. Vice- President, how can you claim that your home is in Maine for tax purposes and at the same time claim that your home is in Texas for voting purposes? Are you really a Texan or a New Englander. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Im really a Texan. But I got one house. And under the law, every taxpayer is allowed, when he sells a house, and buys another house, to get the rollover. Everybody, if it turns out, and I may hire, I notice she said she has a new good accountant. Id like to get his name and phone number because I think Ive paid too muc... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Im really a Texan. But I got one house. And under the law, every taxpayer is allowed, when he sells a house, and buys another house, to get the rollover. Everybody, if it turns out, and I may hire, I notice she said she has a new good accountant. Id like to get his name and phone number because I think Ive paid too muc... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal please. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, your rebuttal please. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me just say that Id be happy to give the vice- president the name of my accountant, but I warn you, hes expensive. I think the question is whether or not the tax cuts and the tax system thats currently in our government, that our government uses, is fair; I think the tax system is unfair. But its not something that... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me just say that Id be happy to give the vice- president the name of my accountant, but I warn you, hes expensive. I think the question is whether or not the tax cuts and the tax system thats currently in our government, that our government uses, is fair; I think the tax system is unfair. But its not something that... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. Vice- President. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. Vice- President. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I think Ive said all I want to say. I do, I didnt fully address myself to Mr. Boyds question no disclosure, I led the fight, I think, in 1968, in the House – I was in the House of Representatives for a couple of terms – and I led the fight for disclosure. I believe in it. Before I went into this job, I disclosed ev... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I think Ive said all I want to say. I do, I didnt fully address myself to Mr. Boyds question no disclosure, I led the fight, I think, in 1968, in the House – I was in the House of Representatives for a couple of terms – and I led the fight for disclosure. I believe in it. Before I went into this job, I disclosed ev... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Thank you. That ends the part of this debate devoted to domestic affairs. We will now turn to foreign affairs and will begin the questioning with Mr. Mashek. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Thank you. That ends the part of this debate devoted to domestic affairs. We will now turn to foreign affairs and will begin the questioning with Mr. Mashek. | John Mashek | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, since your administration came to power the President has threatened a stern response against terrorism, yet murderous attacks have continued in Lebanon and the Middle East. Whos to blame, and youve been director of the Central Intelligence Agency. What can be clone to stop it? |
John Mashek | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, since your administration came to power the President has threatened a stern response against terrorism, yet murderous attacks have continued in Lebanon and the Middle East. Whos to blame, and youve been director of the Central Intelligence Agency. What can be clone to stop it? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Terrorism is very, very difficult to slop. And I think everybody knows that. We had ambassadors killed in Sudan and the Lebanon some time ago, a long time ago. When you see the Israeli building in Lebanon after the death of our marines you see that, hit by terrorism, the Israelis, with all their experience fighting ter... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Terrorism is very, very difficult to slop. And I think everybody knows that. We had ambassadors killed in Sudan and the Lebanon some time ago, a long time ago. When you see the Israeli building in Lebanon after the death of our marines you see that, hit by terrorism, the Israelis, with all their experience fighting ter... | John Mashek | Moderator | You mention Khomeini. Some Republicans charge the previous administration with being almost helpless against Khomeini and Libyas Quaddafi. Why hasnt your administration done something to take action against Arab states that foment this kind of terrorism? |
John Mashek | Moderator | You mention Khomeini. Some Republicans charge the previous administration with being almost helpless against Khomeini and Libyas Quaddafi. Why hasnt your administration done something to take action against Arab states that foment this kind of terrorism? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | What weve done is to support Arab stores that want to stand up against international terror, quite different. We believe in supporting, without jeopardizing the security of Israel in any way, because they are our one strategic ally in the area, they are the one democracy in the area and our relations with them has neve... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | What weve done is to support Arab stores that want to stand up against international terror, quite different. We believe in supporting, without jeopardizing the security of Israel in any way, because they are our one strategic ally in the area, they are the one democracy in the area and our relations with them has neve... | John Mashek | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, you and former Vice- President Mondale have criticized the president over the bombings in Lebanon, but what would you do to prevent such attacks? |
John Mashek | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, you and former Vice- President Mondale have criticized the president over the bombings in Lebanon, but what would you do to prevent such attacks? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me first say that terrorism is a global problem, and let me say secondly that the – Mr. Bush has referred to the embassy that was held in Iran, Well, I was at the White House in January, I guess it was, in 81, when those hostages, all fifty- two of them, came home alive. It was at that time that President Reagan ga... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me first say that terrorism is a global problem, and let me say secondly that the – Mr. Bush has referred to the embassy that was held in Iran, Well, I was at the White House in January, I guess it was, in 81, when those hostages, all fifty- two of them, came home alive. It was at that time that President Reagan ga... | John Mashek | Moderator | Some Democrats cringe at the words spying and covert activity. Do you believe both of them have a legitimate role in countering terrorist activity around the world? |
John Mashek | Moderator | Some Democrats cringe at the words spying and covert activity. Do you believe both of them have a legitimate role in countering terrorist activity around the world? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I think they have a legitimate role in gathering information. And what has happened was the CIA, in the last bombing, had given information to our administration with reference to the actual threats that that embassy was going to be bombed. So it wasnt the CIA that was at fault. Theres legitimate reason for the CIA to ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I think they have a legitimate role in gathering information. And what has happened was the CIA, in the last bombing, had given information to our administration with reference to the actual threats that that embassy was going to be bombed. So it wasnt the CIA that was at fault. Theres legitimate reason for the CIA to ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice- President Bush. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, Im surprised. I think I just heard Mrs. Ferraro say that she would do away with all covert actions, and if so, that has very serious ramifications, as the intelligence community knows. This is serious business. And sometimes its quiet support for a friend, and so Ill leave that one there. But let me help you with... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, Im surprised. I think I just heard Mrs. Ferraro say that she would do away with all covert actions, and if so, that has very serious ramifications, as the intelligence community knows. This is serious business. And sometimes its quiet support for a friend, and so Ill leave that one there. But let me help you with... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me just say, first of all, that I almost resent, Vice President Bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. Ive been a member of Congress for six years; I was there when the embassy was held hostage in Iran, and I have been there and Ive seen what has happened in the past several... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me just say, first of all, that I almost resent, Vice President Bush, your patronizing attitude that you have to teach me about foreign policy. Ive been a member of Congress for six years; I was there when the embassy was held hostage in Iran, and I have been there and Ive seen what has happened in the past several... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. White. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Mr. White. | Jack White | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, youve repeatedly said that you would not want your son to die in an undeclared war for an uncertain cause. But recently your running mate, Mr. Mondale, has suggested that it may become necessary to erect a military quarantine or blockade of Nicaragua. Under what circumstances would you advocate t... |
Jack White | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, youve repeatedly said that you would not want your son to die in an undeclared war for an uncertain cause. But recently your running mate, Mr. Mondale, has suggested that it may become necessary to erect a military quarantine or blockade of Nicaragua. Under what circumstances would you advocate t... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I would advocate the use of force when it was necessary to protect the security of our country, protect our security interest or protect our people or protect the interests of our friends and neighbors. When president – Im jumping the gun a bit, arent I? – when Mr. Mondale, Mr. Mondale referred to the quarantine of Cen... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I would advocate the use of force when it was necessary to protect the security of our country, protect our security interest or protect our people or protect the interests of our friends and neighbors. When president – Im jumping the gun a bit, arent I? – when Mr. Mondale, Mr. Mondale referred to the quarantine of Cen... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | A follow- up, please. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | A follow- up, please. | Jack White | Moderator | Many times in its history the United States has gone to war in order to defend freedom in other lands. Does your answer mean that you would be willing to forgo the use of military force even if it meant the establishment of a Soviet- back dictatorship so close to our own borders? |
Jack White | Moderator | Many times in its history the United States has gone to war in order to defend freedom in other lands. Does your answer mean that you would be willing to forgo the use of military force even if it meant the establishment of a Soviet- back dictatorship so close to our own borders? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | No, I think what you have to do is work with the government – I assume youre speaking about the government of Nicaragua – work with that government to achieve a pluralistic society. I mean they do have elections that are coming up on November 4. I think we have to work with them to achieve a peaceful solution to bring ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | No, I think what you have to do is work with the government – I assume youre speaking about the government of Nicaragua – work with that government to achieve a pluralistic society. I mean they do have elections that are coming up on November 4. I think we have to work with them to achieve a peaceful solution to bring ... | Jack White | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, both Cuba and Nicaragua are reported to be making extensive preparations to defend themselves against an American invasion, which they claim could come this fall. And even some of your Democratic opponents in Congress have suggested that the administration may be planning a December surprise invas... |
Jack White | Moderator | Vice- President Bush, both Cuba and Nicaragua are reported to be making extensive preparations to defend themselves against an American invasion, which they claim could come this fall. And even some of your Democratic opponents in Congress have suggested that the administration may be planning a December surprise invas... | Jack White | Moderator | Considering this countrys long respect for the rule of international law, was it right for the United States to be involved in mining the harbors of Nicaragua, a country were not at war with, and to subsequently refuse to allow the World Court to adjudicate that dispute and the complaint from Nicaragua? |
Jack White | Moderator | Considering this countrys long respect for the rule of international law, was it right for the United States to be involved in mining the harbors of Nicaragua, a country were not at war with, and to subsequently refuse to allow the World Court to adjudicate that dispute and the complaint from Nicaragua? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I support what were doing. It was supported to the Congress and under the law. I support it. My only regret is that the aid for the contras, those people that are fighting, we call them freedom fighters. They want to see the democracy perfected in Nicaragua. Am I to understand from this assault on covert action that no... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | I support what were doing. It was supported to the Congress and under the law. I support it. My only regret is that the aid for the contras, those people that are fighting, we call them freedom fighters. They want to see the democracy perfected in Nicaragua. Am I to understand from this assault on covert action that no... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I spent time in Central America in January and had an opportunity to speak to the contras after the incident in Nicaragua and in El Salvador. Let me just say that the situation as it exists now, because of this administrations policies, are not getting better. Were not moving toward a more secure area of the world. As ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I spent time in Central America in January and had an opportunity to speak to the contras after the incident in Nicaragua and in El Salvador. Let me just say that the situation as it exists now, because of this administrations policies, are not getting better. Were not moving toward a more secure area of the world. As ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice President Bush. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Vice President Bush. | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I would simply like to make the distinction again between those countries that are searching for democracy and the handful of countries that have totally violated human rights and are going the Marxist route. Ortega, the commandante who is head of the Nicaraguan Sandinistas, is an avowed Marxist. They dont believ... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I would simply like to make the distinction again between those countries that are searching for democracy and the handful of countries that have totally violated human rights and are going the Marxist route. Ortega, the commandante who is head of the Nicaraguan Sandinistas, is an avowed Marxist. They dont believ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Miss Quarles. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Miss Quarles. | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice President Bush, the last three Republican administrations, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford, none of them soft on communism, met with the Soviets and got agreements on arms control. The Soviets havent changed that much. Can you tell us why President Reagan has not met with the Soviet ministers at all and only met with ... |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Vice President Bush, the last three Republican administrations, Eisenhower, Nixon, and Ford, none of them soft on communism, met with the Soviets and got agreements on arms control. The Soviets havent changed that much. Can you tell us why President Reagan has not met with the Soviet ministers at all and only met with ... | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Yes, I can. The, you mentioned the Gromyko meeting, those were broken off under the Carter- Mondale days. There had been three separate Soviet leaders. Mr. Brezhnev, Mr. Andropov, and now Chernenko. During their, that, in three and a half years, three separate leaders. The Soviets have not been willing to talk. We are ... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Yes, I can. The, you mentioned the Gromyko meeting, those were broken off under the Carter- Mondale days. There had been three separate Soviet leaders. Mr. Brezhnev, Mr. Andropov, and now Chernenko. During their, that, in three and a half years, three separate leaders. The Soviets have not been willing to talk. We are ... | Norma Quarles | Moderator | You were once quoted as saying that a nuclear war is winnable. Is that still your belief, and if not, under what circumstances would you use nuclear weapons if you were president? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | You were once quoted as saying that a nuclear war is winnable. Is that still your belief, and if not, under what circumstances would you use nuclear weapons if you were president? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I dont think its winnable. I was quoted wrong, obviously, cause I never thought that. The Soviet planning, I did learn that when I was director of Central Intelligence, and I dont think thered be any disagreement, is based on that ugly concept. But I agree with the president; It should never be fought. Nuclear weap... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | No, I dont think its winnable. I was quoted wrong, obviously, cause I never thought that. The Soviet planning, I did learn that when I was director of Central Intelligence, and I dont think thered be any disagreement, is based on that ugly concept. But I agree with the president; It should never be fought. Nuclear weap... | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, you and Mr. Mondale are for a verifiable nuclear freeze. Some Democrats have said that verification may not be possible. How would you verify such an agreement and make sure that the Soviets are not cheating? |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, you and Mr. Mondale are for a verifiable nuclear freeze. Some Democrats have said that verification may not be possible. How would you verify such an agreement and make sure that the Soviets are not cheating? | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say first of all that I dont think there is any issue that is more important in this campaign, in this election, than the issue of war and peace. And since today is Eleanor Roosevelts 100th birthday, let me quote her. She said, “It is not enough to want peace, you must believe in it. And it is not enough to beli... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Let me say first of all that I dont think there is any issue that is more important in this campaign, in this election, than the issue of war and peace. And since today is Eleanor Roosevelts 100th birthday, let me quote her. She said, “It is not enough to want peace, you must believe in it. And it is not enough to beli... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman, Im sorry. Speaking of limits, I have to impose a limit on you, Vice President Bush? |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman, Im sorry. Speaking of limits, I have to impose a limit on you, Vice President Bush? | George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I think theres quite a difference between Mr. Kyprianou in Cyprus and the leader of the free world, Ronald Reagan, in terms of meeting. And the Soviet Union – the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union will meet with a lot of different people. Weve been in very close touch with Mr. Mitterrand, Mr. Kohl, and others that h... |
George H. W. Bush | Candidate | Well, I think theres quite a difference between Mr. Kyprianou in Cyprus and the leader of the free world, Ronald Reagan, in terms of meeting. And the Soviet Union – the Soviet Union, the Soviet Union will meet with a lot of different people. Weve been in very close touch with Mr. Mitterrand, Mr. Kohl, and others that h... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman, he that taketh away has to give back. I robbed you of your rebuttal. Therefore, you will have two minutes to rebut. Forgive me. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Congresswoman, he that taketh away has to give back. I robbed you of your rebuttal. Therefore, you will have two minutes to rebut. Forgive me. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I – You robbed me of my follow- up, thats what you robbed me, so why dont I let her give me the follow- up. |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I – You robbed me of my follow- up, thats what you robbed me, so why dont I let her give me the follow- up. | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | All right, and then give your rebuttal. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | All right, and then give your rebuttal. | Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, most polls show that the American – Americans feel that the Republicans, more than the Democrats are better able to keep the United States out of war. Weve had four years of relative peace under President Reagan. How can you convince the American public that the world would be a safer place under... |
Norma Quarles | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, most polls show that the American – Americans feel that the Republicans, more than the Democrats are better able to keep the United States out of war. Weve had four years of relative peace under President Reagan. How can you convince the American public that the world would be a safer place under... | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I think first of all, you have to take a look at the current situation. We now have 50, 000 nuclear warheads; we are building at the rate of five or six a day between us and we have been doing that since this administration came into office. I think what you can do is look at what theyve done and recognize that theyre ... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | I think first of all, you have to take a look at the current situation. We now have 50, 000 nuclear warheads; we are building at the rate of five or six a day between us and we have been doing that since this administration came into office. I think what you can do is look at what theyve done and recognize that theyre ... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | You have another minute. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | You have another minute. | Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Okay. Im watching them blinking. So I have another minute. What that would do is it would give us the opportunity to sit down and negotiate a treaty. That was done in 1960 by President Kennedy – in 1963. What he did was he issued a challenge to the Soviet Union. He said we will not test in space – in the atmosphere, if... |
Geraldine Ferraro | Candidate | Okay. Im watching them blinking. So I have another minute. What that would do is it would give us the opportunity to sit down and negotiate a treaty. That was done in 1960 by President Kennedy – in 1963. What he did was he issued a challenge to the Soviet Union. He said we will not test in space – in the atmosphere, if... | Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Our last series of questions on foreign affairs from Mr. Boyd. |
Sander Vanocur | Moderator | Our last series of questions on foreign affairs from Mr. Boyd. | Robert Boyd | Moderator | Congresswoman Ferraro, you have had little or no experience with military matters and yet you might someday find yourself commander- in- chief of the armed forces. How can you convince the American people and the potential enemy that you would know what to do to protect this nations security, and do you think in any wa... |
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